Symfony2 versus Go: Round 1 – Hello world (static pages)

In my new job at Hailo we are introducing Go as the main language in the new architecture and because of that I have started playing with it. Besides that, there has been a lot of comments and opinions in both the Symfony2 and the PHP community regarding the TechEmpower framework benchmarks where Symfony2 appears at the bottom of the list for most of the tests.

Needless to say, PHP is and will always be slower than a compiled new-generation language. If it was faster… something would be absolutely wrong… but is this speed difference valuable? Most people will talk about the amount of servers you could save… and this is absolutely true. However, engineers able to develop applications in languages as Go or Scala are definitely more expensive and scarce so this is a cost and a risk to be taken into account as well.

Apart from that, comparing Symfony2 with Go is an absolute unfair and somehow even stupid comparison. Symfony2 is a full-stack PHP framework and because of that, it runs inside an existing web server as a module (being Apache, Nginx/PHP-FPM, etc) while with Go, we create a web-server within the code. So, it is comparing apples with bananas, but still, people like benchmarks, so there we go.

My whole idea for these series is to be able to somehow benchmark the difference if we decide to switch part of the application from PHP to Go (for instance, some slow API, some heavy calculation endpoint, etc…) and one of the easiest ways to do it without changing a lot of things is to use Apache mod_proxy extension to redirect some HTTP calls to a different port where Go would be listening. Of course, in a production environment, this would be done in some HTTP Load Balancer on top of our application, that might be Apache, Nginx, or other available options.

In our experiment, we will end up with these 2 urls: http://localhost/hello-php and http://localhost/hello-go. There will be Apache serving both but for the second one we will proxy the Request to another port where Go is listening. And this can be easily done with these lines in our VirtualHost configuration:

    ProxyPreserveHost on
    ProxyPass /hello-go http://localhost:8080/hello

And to build a simple hello world in Go, that listens on port 8080:

package main 
import (
func hello(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
      w.Header().Set("Content-Type", "text/html")
      fmt.Fprint(w, "Hello world, from Go!")
func main() {
    http.HandleFunc("/hello", hello)
    http.ListenAndServe(":8080", nil)

And a Hello world in Symfony2 is something like this:

namespace Ricardclau\SymfonyVsGoBundle\Controller;
use Symfony\Bundle\FrameworkBundle\Controller\Controller;
use Sensio\Bundle\FrameworkExtraBundle\Configuration\Route;
use Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\Response;
class DefaultController extends Controller
     * @Route("/hello-php")
    public function indexAction()
        return new Response('Hello world, from PHP!');

And if we use Apache Benchmark tool to benchmark the difference vs both calls we will get that our Symfony2 application is able to serve about 230 req/s and our Go endpoint can serve about 6300 req/s!.

So, for this particular case, without databases and not heavy business logic, Go is about 30 times faster than Symfony2. Pretty amazing, isn´t it? Let´s switch to Go? Well, let´s think about it a little bit.

If we were in a production environment, with a heavy traffic website, would we be serving static pages with PHP? Absolutely not! We would put Varnish or some other reverse proxy cache layer in front of our application! So, this difference is absolutely useless in real world applications! Of course, if you are confident with Go, you can develop your website entirely in Go and save some CPU cycles (and perhaps, even the Varnish setup) but again, if you are a CEO or the average Joe CTO who need to hire developers it is more likely that you can get 20 engineers with proper skills in PHP / Apache / Varnish than in Go.

To me, in this first experiment, the conclusion would be that for this case, switching to faster languages in absolutely worthless… but, what do you think about these numbers? In the following chapter of the series we will compare both stacks with database “select” queries and applications with intensive writing POST HTTP requests, so stay tuned for more crazy and perhaps stupid benchmarks!

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4 Responses

  1. Ali Anwar says:

    This is a nice article, thanks for sharing this, I have few comments:

    Why don’t you try to compare Symfony2 to Revel (a Go framework)? although Revel still has long way, but I think they are more like same species, otherwise you have to go pure PHP vs pure Go, with each request Symfony2 is dragging a lot with it, this is unfair for it 😀

    Faster and less servers are what will make Go gain market share, specially when CEOs see how much this has on running cost.

    Also Go is a simple programming language, people are able to jump into it in almost no time, with more libraries getting written to it, I can’t see why it won’t replace other languages for starting new projects (depending on available resources). In my case, it is, I’m even porting full projects now from PHP & Rails to Go, and I love it.

    Now, I’m moving to Go from Java, PHP and Rails, and I can tell you it’s not an easy task, the maturity of libraries are not there yet, for example, ORM libraries, but they are getting there, I can see that I will be working on Go most of the time in the future.

    As for teams, Go made it clear from the beginning that it will have simple standard style that will allow developers to understand what the program is doing, this is a big plus in managing a project, to be able to hire someone and get them in production cycle sooner.

    Conclusion, faster is not worthless, it should be number one factor, unfortunately, now adays, developers are adding more servers to speed up response to clients, this means more power to solve the problem, which means more pollution and energy problems, think of the millions of servers out there if a langue like Go can cut their execution time to 1/3, what would this mean to earth and humanity.

  2. Ricard Clau says:

    Hi Ali

    First of all, thanks for your comments.

    Regarding the comparison against Revel, the only reason for that is that as I said, I have just started playing with Go and this was a pretty straightforward example. Of course, a Revel Hello world must be quite easy (I suppose), but I also wanted to exaggerate the difference as much as possible.

    And yes, speed is one of the main reasons, but not in this example, which can be solved with Varnish. Think about Amazon EC2 instances. A m1.xlarge costs about 400$ / month… and how much does a good engineer cost monthly? This is my point for CEOs and CTOs… although if we think about power wasted, you are absolutely right

    I agree on most of what you say… I also think that Go is quite simple for the power it gives you. But some libraries are still really immature… I had plans to cover it in the next series, so stay tuned for more comparisons 🙂

  3. cordoval says:

    imo personally think the comparison and the after mentioned and acknowledged exaggeration is not the best I expected. Also talk maybe about the prices to pay for the servers i am cutting and the servers i am spending with PHP. You are serving Go with apache, is this the only way to serve it? what is behind the default Go stack for instance. Maybe this is the first series of porting legacy PHP apps to Go which makes more sense.

  4. Hi Ricard, nice article.

    Among PHP + Framework, and Go, or Go + Revel, there are other alternatives, such as Scala/Java + Play and surely there are others.

    But it is true, it is easier to find developers for RoR, Symfony or ZF2, (at least in Spain).

    We are evaluating to change the Framework for new developments, the ZF1 lifecycle is complete, and you end always choosing the tool that most developers know rather than spending money training new ones.

    The equation is complex:
    – Aren’t there developers for Go, Scala,… because they do not self-train?
    – Do the companies try to develop in new languages?

    There comes a time when businesses (micro, small or medium) cannot train everyone since they need to make profits.

    As it has been already mentioned, it’s cheaper to hire a service, or buy and config new servers rather than train developers in Scala, Go, etc.

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